Energy is a powerful bridge for the property value divide

A podcast series with Cotality Australia

When the power bill arrived one summer afternoon, Mia couldn’t believe the number staring back at her. Despite shorter showers and ceiling fans spinning to supplement lower air conditioner use, her energy costs had doubled. Her home — an aging, uninsulated post-war house in suburban Brisbane — was losing the battle against heatwaves and higher electricity prices. She wasn’t alone.  

As Australia’s environment shifts and energy costs climb, homeowners are facing a new reality: how well your home performs isn’t just about comfort — it’s about resilience, value, and cost of living. Upgrading key systems, such as hot water, which can account for 26% of an Australian household’s power bill, and using efficient heating and cooling, along with innovative design features like external shading, are now essential steps to reduce costs and improve home performance.  

In the second episode of Beyond the Buildings' three-part sustainability series with Cotality Australia, guest host Eliza Owen delves into this often-overlooked but increasingly pressing issue: energy efficiency in Australian homes.  

But why is energy efficiency coming into the public conversation now? And what’s driving this shift?  

To unpack these questions, Owen is joined by two industry leaders shaping the future of energy-smart housing. Cecille Weldon, founder of WeldonCo Advisory & Future Agent and creator of the award-winning Livability Real Estate Framework, and Tim Lawless, Research Director at Cotality Australia, are breaking down which energy-efficient investments are beneficial for homeowners and why these upgrades will influence the direction of Australian housing.

In this episode: 

• 2:55 – Why is energy efficiency becoming a critical factor in the property market?

• 5:30 – What are some of the key energy efficiency features that buyers and renters should look out for when trying to find a home?

• 7:12 – How can renters and buyers make their homes more energy efficient?  

• 9:30 – What are some common misconceptions about energy efficiency?

• 15:29 – How will the role of energy efficiency evolve in the property industry over the next decade?

• 19:05 – What or who has the greatest potential to drive widespread energy efficiency in the residential market?

• 21:40 – Erika Stanley looks at the numbers in the housing market in The Sip. 

• 23:45 – What key findings about energy efficiency reveal about the evolution of Australia’s housing stock?

• 32:02 – How is technology changing the way we assess and understand energy resilience across the market?

Transcript

Erika Stanley:

Hi, this is Erika Stanley, the facts guru for Beyond the Buildings. You are tuning into an episode of our bimonthly podcast. We're just collaborating with our Australia team. So today's host will be Eliza Owen rather than Maiclaire Bolton Smith. Even though the host is changing, our perspective isn't, we're still going to dive into the questions about the property market and explore them from every angle. Let's get into it.

Eliza Owen:

Welcome to Beyond the Buildings By Cotality. I'm your host, Eliza Owen, and today we are taking a break from regular programming to explore the property industry from an Australian point of view. Even though we are changing our perspective in this episode, we are still going to satisfy our collective curiosity, explore questions from every angle and look beyond the obvious With every conversation we illuminate what is possible. This is a second episode in our three part sustainability series where we explore how environmental risk is transforming the property industry from the ground up. Last episode, we looked at the increasing risk of natural disasters. Today we shift to a quieter but equally powerful force energy efficiency because as the environment changes, energy, prices rise and regulations tighten. The homes we live in and how we value them are changing from how we build and renovate to how we buy, sell, and even insure homes energy performance is becoming a defining feature.

So what's driving the shift and what role did data design and policy play in making our homes healthier, more comfortable, and more resilient? To help answer that, I'm joined by two expert guests. First, I'll speak with Cecille Weldon, Australia's leading expert on residential energy efficiency. Cecille is the founder of Weldon co advisory and creator of the award-winning livability real estate framework. Then we'll hear from Tim Lawless, research director at Cotality to discuss how star the energy divide is between older and newer homes and what this means for the future of housing in Australia. Together they'll help us understand the new value equation in residential property and how energy efficiency is becoming a core part of that story. Cecille, welcome to Beyond the Buildings.

Erika Stanley:

Before we get too far into this episode, here's a friendly reminder about how to see what's coming up in the property market. To make it easy, we curate the latest insight and analysis for you online, find us using the handle at totality on all our social media channels. But now let's get back to our podcast series with the Australia team.

Eliza Owen:

So my first question for you is why is energy efficiency becoming a critical factor in the property market today?

Cecille Weldon:

There's a whole lot of influences that are sort of coalescing at this time, and that's why it's sort of particularly exciting and that's why it's important to be alert and aware to the signs. So one of them is, as a nation, we need to become more productive. I mean, it's a big conversation going on. So one aspect of productivity is energy productivity. So from a government point of view, we need to get more out of every piece of energy. We have to be more productive, and our homes are a key target for that because when our homes are more efficient, we've got more energy to spend everywhere else. So one is this idea of energy productivity getting more from less. And the other thing is rising cost of living is impacting everyone, every level of the market. And so unfortunately there's this little missed opportunity, a little link that needs to be made for property marketing professionals in particular because we hear about cost of living in the media from the financial and banking sector, mortgage rates from Reserve Bank, and we think, wow, cost of living is impacting mortgages. That's going to stop people. The pressure of that is going to stop people getting into the market. So it's all about affordability, but what we forget is that property professionals can offer a beautiful connection between cost of living pressures and the property features in a property that will help you with that.

So this is a beautiful opportunity to become part of a very empowering conversation because what research shows in Australia is that 89% of people coming to an open home would find a home more attractive if energy efficiency features were identified. This is properly identified. And so what's happening is they're not being identified, but they're also coming with all this cost of living stress and wondering if they can afford that house, whether it's to rent or buy. So it's a beautiful thing. It's like new property information that we can bring in that can really change the game for people.

Eliza Owen:

Yeah, I love that. I had no idea that so many prospective buyers and renters were interested in those features. And so what are some of the key energy efficiency features that buyers and renters should look out for when they're trying to find a home?

Cecille Weldon:

So one of the things is there's this issue of visibility in a property listing. And visibility is everything in a property experience. That's why you've got Caesar Stone Benchtops, you've got European appliances because the property market, the way we create a value proposition is through features, language. It's a beautiful language that was created with icons and everything. So very quickly I can look at a property and compare it before I even go to an open home, I can have my short list. So some of the problem is those property features are not visible. So number one, before we decide what is the right list,

We also need to make sure that that list can become visible. And we'll talk a little bit more about what I've been doing in that space. So in terms of the property features that they most likely, most people think, oh, solar panels, that's the big poster child of energy efficiency, but that's energy generation. What we need to do is right size our solar so that we're first beginning with really great cluster of energy efficiency features, and then we've got the solar to match that, right? So I think one of the ones that probably people don't think through enough is probably hot water. So interestingly, about 26% of your power bill comes from your hot water. So upgrading to a more efficient hot water system is going to be a gift that just keeps giving. So that's number one. The other one, I mean I won't go into all of them, but say obviously the most efficient heating and cooling device you can get is a split system, reverse cycle split system. And so just those two alone is going to make a big difference. But some of the ones that aren't about technology aren't about an inclusion is really about having external shading on the right size, depending on what climate zone you have. And so external shading is amazing because it stops the sun hitting the glass in the first place. Once the sun's hit the glass, it goes inside the house. And with the greenhouse effect, it just keeps heating it and heating it. So your air conditioning or your heating, your air conditioning is doing a lot more. And if you think about winter, if you get that beautiful winter sun in the house, do you see what I mean? So you don't want the shading at that time. So I mean, I think there's all sorts of aspects of property that are so exciting and so empowering when you know about it. And wouldn't it be great if all that information just was flowing through the property market?

Eliza Owen:

A hundred percent. And I think those are some really good takeaways for the listeners. So your hot water, your split system, your external shading, these are just some very simple existing technologies that can make a big difference.

Cecille Weldon:

And of course insulation is just a no brainer.

Eliza Owen:

Yeah,

Cecille Weldon:

Of course. The thing I'd say about insulation is make sure you keep the receipt from the installer because an agent is not insured or qualified to get up into the ceiling and check if it's there. So if you want insulation to be showcased at point of sale or rent because it really does deliver a benefit in terms of running cost and comfort, then you must have that receipt from the installer.

Eliza Owen:

Okay, great tip. So what common misconceptions about energy efficiency in homes would you like to address?

Cecille Weldon:

I think the biggest one is sometimes they're just positioned as green or sustainable.

And I'll tell you with the problem with that, sometimes that means that the benefits it will provide, the person living in the home is lost in that conversation. And we want to reduce impact on the environment, don't get me wrong. But I think in a property decision-making moment, we have to lead with those lifestyle benefits, ongoing affordability, the idea of reduced running cost and a more comfortable home all year round. So being able to identify which features deliver that really matters because I'm concerned about rising interest rates. If I can get some control over my running cost, then I feel really empowered. And also if I know how to create a more comfortable home and a comfortable home is just an amazing value proposition because if you think of the word comfort, it's not just about, it's like I call it a big fat word.

It's got a lot of meaning to it. So it's not just that I'm physically comfortable, but a comfortable home is one that people just want to be in, right? You're not getting up and you're not freezing and you're not too hot. And a lot of people are spending summer in a shopping mall because of the air conditioning. They're leaving their home because it's so uncomfortable. We need to create more comfortable homes and the property industry needs to lean in to the property information that's going to help deliver that. Because when we identify homes with these features, it's a clear message about which way to upgrade. Because what we see agents pointing out in an open home is influential around how can I capitalize my home to get more value? So you're going to get more value when it comes time to selling or renting, but in the meantime you get reduced running cost and a more comfortable home all year round.

Eliza Owen:

That's so interesting. It's almost like reframing it, right? And this is all backed up. You have this background in sociolinguistics, right? Is that what you call it? Yeah, no, that's

Cecille Weldon:

Correct. So interestingly, what drives me is having meaningful conversations. So sometimes property marketing is all about marketing as an empty thing. And so what is really important to me, and I think the opportunity is there for the way properties marketed now for marketing to be meaningful. Because if it's meaningful, it's already inside one, someone is already resonating. And so by being able to address cost of living concerns or being able to say, have you ever lived in a home that's uncomfortably hot or uncomfortably cold? And people will tell you, I mean, all of us can remember whether you are students or not, right? People experience, so being able to say, what difference would it make to you if you didn't have to experience that? Well, these are the property features that are going to help you with that. I mean, I can't wait for that conversation for the leading agents to realize that that's theirs to have. And for the new property insights that come from those new appraisals and listings, the things that Cotality is working on to be able to provide really great property insights. Well, because it's like the whole market's transitioning to this new value proposition.

Eliza Owen:

And just thinking about from a government perspective. So at the moment we're starting to see governments including in the uk, introduce more requirements around energy efficiency, things like mandatory disclosure of ratings or minimum performance standards. How important is regulation in accelerating change in this space?

Cecille Weldon:

So just to frame, for everyone that may not know the word mandatory disclosure is talking about displaying a home energy rating at point of sale or rent. So it's being able to see a home energy rating certificate as part of all the property information you're receiving, but government calls it mandatory disclosure as such a mouthful. There's one really big takeaway I can give everyone in terms of how to look at regulation. If the regulation is improving the quality of the property, then you absolutely lean in and you stop complaining about it because we need to, I guess one of the things I'd like all the property professionals to understand is that property is the new customer. Okay, so how well do you know property?

If you were rated tomorrow on your property knowledge, how would you go? Because these new features are just more comprehensive information about property. And so the regulation that is being worked on by all the states and territories and the Commonwealth government is about looking at introducing home energy ratings at point of sale or rent. And that is to bring that information about the running cost and comfort potential into the property market. And that's that new value proposition. Now, interesting about a rating, it's looking at the whole home, and I think when everyone hears it, they should just not panic. It's going to be a change, but you need to think of it. So how to reframe this, you need to think of it as customized property insights about that particular property to empower you to know how to upgrade. Because what people don't realize even in the international jurisdictions is that ratings came to catalyze the upgrade, not just to rate everything.

So we need to focus on the back of these certificates. What there's going to be is customized information for your property about how it can be upgrade. So someone buying that property knows exactly which way to go, which is going to be pretty exciting in the meantime, because every state and territory will activate this at different times. New South Wales government is likely to be the first. I would encourage agents to be curious, interested to really lean into upskilling on the individual energy efficiency features because these are the ones that inform a lot of the rating software in any case. And these are the ones that people need to upgrade. So by the time the regulation comes, everyone's started to upgrade in the right direction, it gives them the best chance to get the highest rating. But remember, that number isn't as important as the ability to upgrade. So it's like property insight

Eliza Owen:

And gives you a starting point of where to go and where to modify. So I guess we've sort of touched on this already, but a little bit. How do you see the role of energy efficiency evolving in the property industry over the next decade?

Cecille Weldon:

Even now in the backend of property technology and particularly property data, property data, they're the most commercially exciting data sets to ever hit the market. So on the 11 million, 12 million, however mending million homes there are in Australia, we have no insight into these features. We have no insight into their energy efficiency potential, and that's why we have such poor quality property. So what's happening is the drive for more information, more granular information about this is to reduce the risk for the banking and financial sector so that they can encourage homeowners to start upgrading in the right direction, more comfortable, less running cost. But also I think what's really incredibly important about this is that that direction that the energy efficiency features in a property conversation is going to make people look differently about property. So we're used to it being about what a property has three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and a car park. Now it's going to be what can that property do for you? So this is a society of performance, and so that's going to completely change the narrative and the way we look at a home, and particularly for renters, they're going blind into a situation. They think a rental property is affordable for them, then they get the energy bill and it's wildly out of kilter, and so they can't leave that lease, right? So this is about making things transparent. So for all the property professionals and particular principles that have rent rolls,

Which so much of their business is valued around, understand that what's going to happen now is the property's quality is going to be in the spotlight. It's not just the cashflow of that rent roll, it's how good are the properties in your rent roll. And so that means that we start to look property maintenance, we need to say, let's look at property upgrade every time we connect with that home, we're going to make it better. And then you'll be in the right side of history and you'll be in right side of value. You'll be in the right side of lifting your profile so that you really showcase in your own market and you're going to be driving better homes. And better homes are so much better to market than poor quality homes

Eliza Owen:

A hundred percent. And I think in the rental market especially, there's been so much talk with the rise in rental prices about affordability, there's not as much of a qualitative measure on home. So getting that insight is so important.

Cecille Weldon:

And one of the things Eliza, you and I have spoken about is the affordability index that is always mentioned is always talking about getting into the market. It's not bringing together a afford to live in. And so an actual fact, if you want to really look at what is a very robust measure of affordability, it's not just afford to buy rent, but it's a afford to live in. And so energy efficiency features start to deliver that data that is going to bring that. So it's a much more robust indication and that's going to help the pole property market

Eliza Owen:

A hundred percent. Okay, my last question for you, if you could advise the industry directly with one change or intervention, what do you think would make the biggest impact in helping mainstream energy efficiency in the residential market?

Cecille Weldon:

Well, there's a couple of things I'd say there. And so first of all, I'd say to all my property technology peers, because property technology underpins every single property touchpoint in the journey either directly with listings, CRMs, whether it's data insights, they underpin everything and they're largely invisible to consumers. But what we've developed, the PropTech Association is an energy efficiency feature standard. This is the first time there've ever been a data standard to my knowledge in the world around our energy efficiency features. And this is going to be a game changer because if you've got a consistent set of energy efficiency features that will deliver an impact on an individual feature basis and everyone has them in the backend, then you're going to allow data to flow well from one to the other, but also you're going to drive literacy. So energy efficiency, literacy and visibility.

So they're all going to start to be showcased. So that I'd encourage everybody, if you're an agent or an agency, ask your CRM if they've signed up to the energy efficiency feature standard. If you're a PropTech signup PropTech feature standard au. And if you're an agent, be really start to see in the back end of that CRM and start to notice where are the energy efficiency features, because soon they're going to be all aligned. So that's what I do in terms of a whole system intervention that we can all work on together that will deliver us all a benefit because currently energy efficiency features are missing ambiguously identified or wrongly identified in the backend of everyone's tech. When we clean it up, we get visibility and consistency that's important, and that's the runway towards rating in two to three years. On an individual property professional basis, I would say upskill, I can't say it enough, upskill on energy efficiency features. You can't wing it. You can't wing your way through this one. You need to have real understanding of what it is, why it delivers, and how it delivers the lifestyle benefit and how to position it effectively in the very short moments you have with people, and that will drive all sorts of amazing outcomes for you.

Eliza Owen:

Cecille, I wish I could pick your brain about this all day, but I know you're a very busy woman, so I'll just say thank you so much for your time and your insight.

Cecille Weldon:

Oh, it's so much a pleasure. Thanks, Eliza.

Erika Stanley:

It's that time again. Totality just dropped new numbers on housing affordability. Here's what you need to know. Affordability and location are both crucial when buying a home, but for Gen Z, finding a balance between the two is often a challenge. Totality, data revealed people born between 1997 and 2003 made up 13% of all home buyers in 2024, but those buyers weren't flocking to major metropolitan areas. Instead, many Gen Z buyers are purchasing homes in the Midwest and south where prices are lower and there are more houses to choose from the downside, these regions have higher exposure to natural disasters, which drives up the long-term cost of home ownership. Frequent perils like hail contribute to rising insurance premiums, which Cotality data shows has climbed 74% over the past 15 years. To find out more about the long-term costs for today's affordable homes, visit Cotality.com/insights. There's also a link in the show notes, and that's the sip. See you next time.

Eliza Owen:

So we've heard how energy efficiency is becoming a key part of how homes are marketed and experienced and how the real estate industry is starting to shift, but what does the data say about where we are now and where the biggest gaps still lie? To unpack that, I spoke with Tim Lawless from Cotality about the latest report on energy resilience of Australian homes. Here's that conversation. I, Tim Lawless, welcome.

Tim Lawless:

Hey, Eliza, thanks for having me on.

Eliza Owen:

Thanks for joining us, Tim. This report highlights a major performance gap between older homes and newer ones when it comes to energy efficiency. What are the key findings that stood out most to you and what do they tell us about the evolution of Australia's housing stock?

Tim Lawless:

Yeah, you're right, Eliza. There's a significant gap between more modern homes and their energy ratings and older styles of homes. So if you look at I guess the history of minimum standards and newly built homes, you can go all the way back to say 1990. That's when we started to see some pretty basic minimum requirements coming in for things like insulation. But it was really in 2003, that's when we saw S introduced as a way to measure and benchmark energy resilience. And then of course in 2010, we saw the Australian construction code adopt a minimum six star standard for newly built homes, and that's really where we saw a step change in energy ratings and energy efficiency in newly built dwellings. So to give you a bit of an understanding of what that means, so any home that we classify as modern, which is built after 2010, that's got a median green star rating of 5.9, so just below that six mark, if you look at homes built prior to 2010, that the median is just 2.8 and it really speaks to that, I suppose, minimum standard that was introduced to the construction sector back in 2010.

Eliza Owen:

That's great. So yeah, you talk about this inflection point from 2010 when energy ratings improve sharply, and so that is changes to the national construction code that really influenced the shift. And on that, do you think the minimum seven star standard will move the needle even further?

Tim Lawless:

Yeah, so the national construction codes from 2010, it adopted a minimum six star rating for energy efficiency, and that was mostly around things like thermal insulation, ensuring that homes had insulation to a lesser extent, trying to ensure that there's less, I suppose, escape of say warmth during the colder weathers and heat during the colder weather. But what we saw prior to that, so for example, just give you a really quick context of the background of changes in the national construction code or the building code prior to that was pretty much in 1990 that we started to see minimum insulation requirements being adopted, and then in 2003, that's when Australia adopted the natives framework. So we started to see a lot more focus then on things like insulation and aspect heating and cooling properties of a property. But 2010 was a real change. That's when we saw the minimum six star rating introduced to the marketplace for all newly built homes.

As you mentioned, from the National construction code from 2022, which went into play more sort of mid 2023. That's where we've seen a minimum seven star green rating applied for newly built homes. And absolutely, I think this will move the dial. I mean, this is a regulatory requirement, so any newly built home will need to have a minimum of seven star rating, which means much more than just insulation generally means things like double glazing or better glazing on windows, a lot more protection around thermal insulation, that type of thing. And of course there are new standards coming in with building materials and so forth as well. So yeah, I think when we look at the inflection from 2010 and then even a pickup from 2000 and 2022 with the new ratings being adopted, I think absolutely we'll see this moving further towards a more greener style of housing for modern homes.

Eliza Owen:

That's great and a lot to look forward to in new housing stock. So we know that residential energy efficiency, it's good for sustainability, but what about for value? Are we starting to see a premium attached to homes with better energy ratings or newer builds?

Tim Lawless:

Well, this is something that's a little bit harder to prove up, and I think the first thing I'll say is well watch this space. I think we will see a lot more work being done on trying to understand what the premium is for a home with a higher star rating. We have seen a few reports in the marketplace that do suggest there is a premium for these styles of homes, but that's generally based on things like listings, data and looking for keywords in the marketplace. So anecdotally and unscientifically, whether the gut field, absolutely you would expect that homes that have inherently less energy costs associated with them, people would be willing to pay more for them. Clearly there is going to be a limit on how much people are going to be willing to pay for a sustainable outcome. But I think given the fact that we are seeing significant rises in energy prices, I don't think that's going to be changing anytime soon. More and more consumers are going to be looking at the energy saving benefits and the cost saving benefits of having a higher green star rating for their home. Whether that means buying a more modern home, it's got the minimum benchmarks or buying an established home that can easily be retrofitted. I mean, they're both the same thing in many ways. But yeah, absolutely. I think you'll find given time and given that the prevalence of, I suppose the more evidence that's becoming available around cost savings, you will find more people adopting the style of technology.

Eliza Owen:

Yeah, that's great. Thanks Tim. And I'm interested, you mentioned retrofitting there, which is really important because most of the housing stock is made up of older homes built before the changes in star rating standards. So what does the data suggest about the role of retrofitting and is that where the biggest opportunity lies?

Tim Lawless:

Yeah, I think absolutely that's where we'll see the biggest changes. So to give you a bit of context, Australia on average has around 180,000 new houses or new homes being built every year. That's on average over the past five years, there's 11 million dwellings or a bit more than 11 million dwellings across the country. So even with these new standards of minimum requirements for green star ratings, we're only talking a little bit less than 2% of the housing stock sort of having a minimum standard year on year. So the bulk of the opportunity here absolutely is for existing homes to be retrofitted, and I think we'll see more and more of that happening. There are some really good examples of state government rebates and incentives where you can actually get some money back for insulation or double glazing or more energy efficient heat pumps and so forth. They tend to be very, I suppose, specific state. But you'll also find, I think as energy costs continue to rise, there's just a natural incentive for more existing homeowners to upgrade their be more energy resilient, and I think that's what we have to look forward to.

Eliza Owen:

Yeah, that's a really good point. I think incentives have been very important, but over time you've just got consumers in the middle of rising cost of living pressures who are just going to be considering their energy bills and where they can do better. For sure.

Tim Lawless:

That's right. I think it comes down to more than just a cost benefit analysis as well. So in many cases, the expense of retrofitting a home might be more than the cost savings associated with it, or at least the years to pay off that capital investment might be high, but I think more and more there's a social conscience as well as a lot more Australians strive for a better energy outcome, not just for their home and for the balance sheet, but also for the betterment of the climate as well.

Eliza Owen:

That's a great point, Tim. So totality use of the rapid rate model with C-S-I-R-O as a really innovative layer to this analysis, how is technology like that changing the way we assess and understand energy resilience across the market?

Tim Lawless:

It's such a great example of utilizing artificial intelligence. So AI alongside really rich data sets in the marketplace, partnering with A-C-S-I-R-O is fantastic in the sense that they have a lot of access to some very rich data sets, as does core logic. They have access to a lot of methodologies as well. So looking at estimates for the Green Star rating of all dwellings rather than just those homes that have either been certified or have clear minimum standards based on the year builds is really important. And it's really broad reaching as this goes well beyond just having an understanding of what portion of homes have a green star rating of center higher or higher. It also feeds into things like green lending where our banking and finance sector also have net zero targets. They're looking to meet for those people that are looking to apply for a loan or a refinancing of their loan, and they do have a star rating that might be over six or seven, chances are they might be eligible for some green lending styles of funding as well.

Eliza Owen:

Yeah, that's so interesting about how that technology can create some innovations in the financial space as well and further benefiting households. Tim, thank you so much for your time today. It's been great having you on the podcast and getting your expertise.

Tim Lawless:

Benny. Thanks Eliza.

Eliza Owen:

Thank you to Cecille and Tim for joining me today on Beyond the Buildings by Cotality. And thank you for listening. I hope you've enjoyed our latest episode. Please remember to leave us a review. Let us know your thoughts and subscribe wherever you get your podcast to be notified when new episodes are released. And thanks to the team for helping bring this podcast to life producer, Andrew Barclay, edit editor and sound engineer, Romie Aromin, our facts guru, Erica Stanley and Social media duo Sarah Bark and Makaila Brooks. Tune in next time for another conversation that illuminates the ideas that will define the future.

Erika Stanley:

You still there? Well, thanks for sticking around. Are you curious to know a little bit more about our three guests? Cecille Weldon has a deep understanding of the property marketing industry and executive level experience into the real estate franchise business model, the emerging prop tech sector in the systems which underpin property marketing in Australia. This sector knowledge is she believes the key understanding to the levers within the property marketing industry, which will support the pathway to a net zero agenda as we seek to develop the appropriate market environment for disclosure and coordinate energy efficiency, information disclosure data. Tim Lawless is executive research director of totalities Asia Pacific Research Division, managing a team of economic and data specialists across Australia and New Zealand. He brings more than 20 years experience to the role providing deep insight and analysis on national housing trends recognized as a leading authority on residential property. Tim regularly provides expert commentary on real estate market conditions and the interplay between housing markets, demographic trends, and economic factors. As one of Australia's most popular property market analysts and commentators, Tim's expertise is frequently sought by a diverse array of audiences from government bodies and policymakers through national and international corporate entities across the property, banking and financial sectors, insurance valuations, and consumers. Tim's research is regularly featured in Australian and Global Media, and he is a popular keynote speaker.

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